I think we all agree that there used to be enormous races. Used to exclude women, r or people of african descent. We can all agree many groups we can talk about to day as historically marginalized. And our debate comes down to, have we made no progress, a little progress, or enormous progress? And if we made enormous progress, should we continue? Or you might think wev made little and therefore we need to try a totally new way. So i'd like to share with you what happened to me when i was onwell,. When i was on a panel at, soon after i wrote an article on th atlantic with greg looki on 20 15.

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