What Do We Really Know About January 6th, 20 20?

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Gramwood talks to us about his reporting on isis and why it's important to take the ideology of extramists seriously. We also talk about being middle school lap partners with richard spencer, and the role that general interest journalists like rainwood s wide play in our society. And we finally made it happen last minute, to try and think together about the jornysex committee.

Graeme Wood is a staff writer for The Atlantic and a lecturer in political science at Yale University. He is the author of The Way of the Strangers: Encounters with the Islamic State.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Graeme Wood discuss why the January 6th insurrection does not resemble other coups; his experience interviewing Mohammed bin Salman and being Richard Spencer's middle school lab partner; and the need for general interest journalists whose curiosity is not constrained by their identity.

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