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Follow the Leader: How to Be the Example and Transform Engineering Teams (with Jossie Haines, Executive Coach)

This New Way

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Why We're Saying Burnout

Sally Kohn: Why did you typically never get the other party to be in a good state? It's always in a defensive state. What I try to do now is not use why did you? But something more like, can you explain a little bit more you're thinking in how you arrived here in particular? She says one of the things that is very topical these days is just this idea of burnout. Kohn: Especially in the U.S., there's like financial uncertainty, which has been leading to especially in the tech industry, a ton of layoffs.

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