I've Been Listening to You Talk to Students and in Academics in the Us Recently.

i think for anyone sitting in on those meetings, or anyone watching, there's so much that would elicit a kind of cringe. But at the same time, you found this kind of vessel for these discussions that a that smooths it over and makes it consumable. I mean, i'm sure er in speaking from my perspective as a white man, obviously difficult to talk about race in most contexts without putting my finger in it. So one other point i just want to cand to bring into this part of the discussion is the fact that i've been listening to you talk to a students and in academics in the us. You've been there recently. And i think it's the format that