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The Gray Area with Sean Illing cover image

A GOP insider on why the party went Trump

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Cable TV Is Hollywood for Ugly People, and That's How Much Sean Spicer Wants Fame

There's this weird dorky DC fame that people inspired to. In Republican politics, that is even more true. You get fame by being like a flamboyant conspiracist. That's how you get retweets. And so the incentive structure in this culture is just totally, totally off.

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