Follower of Jesus. Leading scientist. Is it possible for those to describe the same person? Dr. Francis Collins joins us today to prove that he’s both. As the former director of the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Collins is a polarizing figure inside and outside the church. He starts by explaining how he approaches apparent conflicts between science and the Bible, such as gene editing and studying the tissue of aborted fetuses. He expresses his disappointment in how politicized science has become in today’s culture, using COVID as his primary example. But is there anything he regrets about the ways the government handled COVID? Were mandates, masks, social distancing rules, and shutdowns really backed by science? Was the COVID vaccine as safe and effective as it was originally promoted? Does he believe that our country is more prepared for the next pandemic? Buckle up!

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