Making Stuff and Doing It Yourself

Lon: I think we could start with kind of the diy element, branching off of our original discussion on primitive scales. And then in part two we can go more unto like, food and likes cet andln, like foraging um and preservation and stuff. Lon: Having my own money, yes, having no money, but also just there diy, like, do it yourself, was a very, like, kind of ninetis punk thing that came into the main stream.