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How Did You Feel About It When You Were Starting Gimmelen?
My dad was always in advertising and he worked with a couple of different people at different agencies. And then he eventually started his own advertising agency that became Wolf Bloomberg Crody. He never talked about it as like, this is my business,. If anything, he was embarrassed about it. I don't think he valued it at all. But he had this successful business that seemed to kind of grow on its own or grow organically.