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211. You’ve Got Questions, We’ve Got Answers

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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The Negative Box of Growth

I don't think GDP necessarily cares what it measures. Robert Kennedy famously said decades ago, that GDP is an excellent measure of everything except that which is important. And so the problem here, I think, is that we have chosen to give monetary value to the result of the extractive mentality in our society. We need much more growth of clean, non-polluting, cheap and locally produced food. So let's just open our heads to what we talk about when we say growth. It's not that growth is wrong. It's the things that we measure under growth that have gotten us into this situation.

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