I think the micro-virgin accounts and the idea conforms to many people's experience. It helps them understand aspects of their experience that they feel was denied to them under the sort of previous dispensation. So I don't think we've worked out in this conversation yet what it is that's appealing to them about this intellectual movement or this way of seeing the world. But you know one thing that I'm missing in all of this discussion which is in philosophy we have a term of rationality construction right where you're trying to give the most systematic and coherent version of somebody's thought rather than before does it actually presents itself.

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