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The Ukraine War Ep. 8: The World At War
This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
Ukrainian Victory: Kicking Out the Russians
If Putin falls down and doesn't get up again, this would kick off the most enormous fight for power inside Moscow. And in that situation, it would very quickly become existential with different groups trying to kill each other. So there would be instability in Russia for sure. But while he's still there, and what I hear from my Western intelligence sources, not in the UK but elsewhere, is that he's got extremely good medical care. In a way, it's a sort of military strategic question. It's clear to me that we know what Ukrainian victory is: kicking out the Russians; building a democratic state integrated with the West. That's Ukrainian victory.
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