i wonder if that isn't actually part of the problem for them spiritually, is this longing to return back to normal? A because it's quite likely, possible, or likely, normal isn't coming back. What they're talking about is, ok, this can't go on forever. This isn't sustainable. And so there's got to be a point where that ends,. and something else emerges that's more reasonable. You know, you just keep going through all these things.

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