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35. Ryan Zickgraf

The Carousel Podcast

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How Do You Negotiate the Right Balance Between Labor and Identity?

Sally Kohn: I didn't want, you know, what a lot of people call anti-wokeness to like define the political projects. She says corporate PR dollars are dormant sitting there waiting to be used when Occupy Wall Street happens and they get triggered. "It becomes this whole cloudy race thing because it's perfect divide and conquer," she says.

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