For two-and-a-half years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia with the goal of “total victory” – to not only beat President Vladimir Putin’s forces back to the border, but to reclaim all territory annexed by Russia since 1991. 

But as both President Volodymyr Zelensky and Putin’s popularity and resources fade, and as another winter approaches, it’s possible that a more pragmatic end to the war could be in sight. 

Today, editor-in-chief of The Economist Zanny Minton Beddoes, on what it would take for a permanent end to the fighting, and the future for Ukraine if that can’t be reached. 

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Guest: Editor-in-chief of The Economist Zanny Minton Beddoes

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