I take what I said to be part of the Enlightenment. That's to say that unless you try to understand the historical context, the political context, all the things that your version of culture has been rejecting this evening, you won't win. We're less and less in a position where we can as it were look disdainfully on that. This is why we need ivory towers, isn't it? To knowledge factories. And if the only alternatives we have are knowledge factory or ivory tower were finished. There's gentlemen there. Terry, your observation about the importance of culture and nation-states now. But as I understand it, we're in an age which is no longer the age of

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