Were there any,

were there moments like specifically that triggered that? I'm curious. Yeah. So it wasn't in the moment of me doing it, but sort of looking back on it. I think in 2021, I started acquiring other businesses and I was like, oh, like I want to be like, I started this obsession with Bernard, or no, I'm like, I'll be a mage and I got really excited about that. We were the listeners of episode, whatever that was, are so well aware of your obsession with it.

I love

Elvie Meech. What I love about deals though, what I didn't know then was like, it's not that I love that there are people like that you're doing the big move. That's actually not quite the part of it that I love and that you've got this whole portfolio. The part of it that I love is that doing a deal, negotiating a deal requires like creative brainstorming, figuring out like, what does this person trying to accomplish? How do I get this for that? And that creativity of it all is the part that excites me. But I didn't get that at the time. And so I'm doing these business moves that are like, oh, this feels kind of weird out of alignment. But like, I got it like this is the thing to do. And I was like, so focused on it. That probably was a big moment where I just like, I was doing stuff that didn't make sense for me.

I struggle with that because I definitely feel like I will get caught up in the other goals. I think the third under 30 list is actually a really good example of that. That's something that I see. I don't really think of other personal finance creators as competition, so to speak. But there is a sort of benchmarking where you can see what everyone else is doing and the accolades that they're getting and the recognition and the growth. And then you sort of be like, oh, should I be trying to get that? Like, oh, and you start to kind of second guess yourself and doubt yourself. But I like that that's why this exercise is so powerful because it so clearly defines Elaine for you to be like, well, that's not, that's not you. It's cool. That has nothing to do with you. Yes. And you need to keep, you need, I have said this to myself so many times, like just stay in your own lane. Stop looking around and trying to see what I'll like, no, no, no, no, no, trust your vision and just every day wake up and try to execute a little bit more on that. So it's funny when you're like, what cover of the magazine would you want to be on? I'm like, oh, I don't want to be, I want to write the feature story in the magazine. Oh, I want to get the cover. I want to like write the feature. That's a great,

like, that's a great answer, Katie. That's very you. I feel so she's so proud of me. I was like

that.