I remember when I was a kid like going through these processes that like let me handle a lot of pain and then realize that it would just my life would keep going. And again not recommending this as a super fucked up but I think in some way like this primed me at a very young age to have like a very direct and close up and like almost meditative experience around really excruciating pain. You know that your upbringing reminds me somewhat of what you were saying before about kind of your experience with pain. Do you feel like that had an influence on how you think about pain and like how you grapple with it? I kind of think so.