Gardener: We're actually in this cycle, a bit in the peaky of the expectations. I think just from barely AI, our product, when we see monthly churn on the product, our senses, it's a lot of people just the tourists. They're like, oh, this is cool. Trying to out. trying to out. But they didn't find the sticky use of it. And then you hit the plateau productivity. It's not as high as a peak of the expectations, but is sustained and ongoing. Jack Butcher: What distinguishes true innovation from a pump and dump? Will my NFTs ever be worth anything again?

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