Axy, i love that story. I would ask tracy if i want to do this live, like, so you are someone who naturally is is more risk averse. What was it about pat, like, what made you follow this crazy guy out into the world and away from your benefits? Axy: For the past 25 years, i've never gotten used to it. But we've come to trust ourselves in the midst of it. We just have to go through this, yes, you know.