When, If Ever, Aversives Are Justified

In this episode, Ivan Balabanov and Will Bangura sit down for a direct, honest conversation about dog training, learning theory, and the claims behind “positive-only” methods.

No scripts. No prepared speeches. Just two trainers with very different philosophies trying to understand and challenge each other.

The points of agreement matter just as much as the disagreements.

Different philosophies. Different experiences. Same goal: truth over ideology.

This is only the beginning. Part 2 is already coming.