There's a way to eat in a way that people sort of like associate with a lack of health for kind of any way of eating. The fact that vegetarians and vegans like live longer and have all these like better health markers, maybe that means that vegetarian diets are healthier. We can't rule that out, but we can't say it with any confidence either because there's like 15 or 20 differences between vegetarians and non-vegetarians.

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