Witchcraft

I have very little time for any kind of woo. And yet, i went into that episode with a fairly open mind because vinessa was highly recommended to me by our new producer katy. I mean, the more the more links there in the chain, you just have to assume that everyone's doing their due diligence with people all the way along the chain. So make no mistake, i gave vanessa a chance. Don't have many witches on the podcast, not re i'm not really interested in talking but supernatural woo with anybody, right? Right?