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Today’s show:

Jason can’t stop praising Nathan Fielder’s new A24 hybrid documentary about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos, “You Can See Everything,” and he’s insisting that Lon check it out before the next podcast. Hear his spoiler-free review, how the film upended his expectations based on Fielder’s previous work, and why Lon also recommends Lance Oppenheim’s HBO Max series “Ren Faire.”

Plus, we’re talking to Clone Robotics co-founder and CEO Dhanush Radhakrishnan about why he thinks robots should not just be humanoid but should look and move precisely like humans. We’re digging deep into how his hydraulic myofiber artificial muscle technology alters and even improves on the pulley-based systems being deployed by competitors, why he thinks the models that power domestic helper-bots will be commoditized, and how quickly he thinks he can put a robo-butler in every American home.

Plus we’re comparing the potential impact of Anthropic’s new Public Benefit Fund vs. Elon Musk’s plan to give every baby a share of SpaceX, and re-considering simulation theory after Odyssey dropped an artificial fruit fly brain into an artificial landscape.

Guest

Dhanush Radhakrishnan on X: https://x.com/dhanushisrad

Clone Robotics: https://clonerobotics.com/

Related Links

“You Can See Everything” trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvW_N5p1q44

“You Can See Everything” on Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/you_can_see_everything

John Carreyrou’s Theranos investigation (Wall Street Journal): https://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-has-struggled-with-blood-tests-1444881901

“Ren Faire” HBO Max trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZUVTrrexE

“Nathan for You”: Smokers Allowed clip (Comedy Central): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttB2fYAm-8

Anthropic: Investing in the Public Benefit: https://www.anthropic.com/news/public-benefit-fund

Elon Musk SpaceX pledge: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2112089556615123114

Dell’s $6.25B Invest America commitment: https://www.onedell.com/investamerica/

Odyssey Fly Simulation X post: https://x.com/odysseyml/status/2111589148146749616

Chris Williamson: “The ElevenLabs Situation is Crazy”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDNHLgWInU

ElevenLabs’ Legendary Voices marketplace: https://elevenlabs.io/iconic-marketplace

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15:27 What films max out RT's critic and audience scores

20:08 Anthropic commits 5% equity to Public Benefit Fund

24:28 Would equity change how Americans feel about AI?

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39:48 Dhanush from Clone Robotics joins the show

42:43 How hydraulic muscle technology actually works

54:55 When can we have our robot butlers please?

56:55 Where will Clone get its robot brains?

1:12:17 Odyssey trapped a fake fly brain in a simulated environment

1:23:09 Did ElevenLabs steal a podcaster's voice?

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