There's like an intimacy to the in-person brainstorming. Maybe if you get to know each other well and you trust each other, maybe you can do that. The thing I missed now is sitting down at lunch table with the team. And so again, we're still learning. We're also learning is like humanity with this new reality, right? But, but what we found is that getting people together, whether it be a team or the whole company or whatever, is worth the expense because people are happier after that.

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