In this episode of "A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond," I am joined by my two dear friends Leo Lok and Z'ev Rosenberg. Both are experienced practitioners of Chinese medicine in the US with a strong classical foundation and shared commitment to not only practicing but also LIVING Chinese medicine.

It is fascinating to me to hear how they arrive at their shared ideals from very different backgrounds, as a New York Jew (Z'ev) and a Malaysian Chinese Buddhist (Leo). As usual, today's conversation takes us in some unexpected directions as we talk about

medicine as a living philosophy, both for practitioners and patients;
the meaning of life and death;
the embodied teachings of Zhuangzi to treat cancer;
the human role in "Harmonizing Heaven and Earth";
medical practice in the context of multicultural diversity, environment pollution, plastic surgery, and much more; and
the role of the intestinal biome, constitutional types, and the importance of the Spleen-Stomach school.

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