African American English and Linguistic Discrimination

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Black children are much more likely to be labelled learning disabled in reading. So a lot of the movements from teachers sort of, especially back in the day, where ocwill, we need to transition them away from this. We need to teach them standard english. And it's still a controversy, because everybody knows that if you want to get more economic success, like you do need to command standard english. But you're asking a lot of those kids, right? Um. Ya, it's really hard.

Alie is delirious with the flu, so it’s an encore presentation of a favorite episode. If you slept on this when it first aired, get into Phonology now. Vocal fry. Code switching. Black Twitter. Valley girls. Culture vultures. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TALKING. Alie battles traffic to sit down with linguistics professor Dr. Nicole Holliday about intonational phonology: how tones and pitch help us bond with others and construct identities. Inspired in part by former President Barack Obama's masterful linguistic variability, Dr. Holliday's work focuses on how language is used in the crossing and construction of racial/ethnic boundaries. She graciously fielded tons of questions for a fascinating dive into the nuances and strict grammatical rules of African American Language, cultural appropriation, our educational system, honoring your identity, what not to wear in Paris and the roiling debate over who is the best rapper. Also: Alie is maybe a lizard person.

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Sound editing by Jarrett Sleeper of MindJam Media & Steven Ray Morris

Music by Nick Thorburn