I think it's always a dual thing, both investing of course in all the resources that can actually really create an informed population and that requires it to be a goal itself. I do believe that the private public education system in this country is toxic,. I've got four kids all in state schools and it's extraordinary to me. Many countries have private schools but you don't have a different national kind of curriculum. Why do we just have debate programs and high level debate happening in private schools? What are the nurses thinking? What have they been fighting for? So there are movements in society that are really important to harness those movements. And then again, using instruments to drive all sorts of different

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