I Think the Ukranians Are Going to Push Their War Aims as Far as Possible

The ukranians are going to push their war aims as far as possible. But they're also realistic that if putin makes a serious negotiation offer, it has to be one that involves withdrawal. I think the istonian leadership and the french leadership can be both right at the same time. And i think there interesting question that makron raises about what do we want with russia? Where do we want to go with russia?"