I Agree With Nina That the Law and Justice Party Has Definitely Cried Uncle to the EU

I agree with Nina that all of these movements tend to do some interesting things. I mean, the law and justice party in Poland has definitely cried uncle to the EU over what I think are sort of spurious, quote-unquote rule of law failings. But yeah, it's worth noting that where they hang on to their populist message is kind of at the margins, it's on cultural issues. So on these issues, they come up short. It turns out these establishments in London, New York and Brussels are unbelievably strong. They can really punish you if you want to defy austerity rules.