The Power of Co-Creation with Chris Deaver and Ian Clawson
The Remarkable Leadership Podcast
Exploring the 10,000-Hour Rule and Contrasting Perspectives
Exploring the 10,000-hour rule from 'Outliers' in contrast to 'Range,' with insights from Florida State research and discussion on the authors' book 'Brave Together.'
What approach leads to greater creativity in leadership teams? Chris Deaver and Ian Clawson argue that co-creation is the solution for turbulent times, leading through empowerment. They share six principles that enable co-creation: Lead with a Question (Wisdom), Turn Pain into Power (Passion), Make Others the Mission (Compassion), Define the Situation (Action), Create Context (Purpose), and Follow True North (Alignment). Chris and Ian also touch on the individual journey towards embracing co-creation and share real-world examples of the principles.
Listen For00:00 Introduction 03:47 Co-creation in Book Writing 05:08 Concept of 'Brave' in Leadership 06:57 Co-creation in the Workplace 10:34 Implementing Co-creation in Meetings 13:28 Six Principles of Co-creation 18:33 Alignment and Action in Co-creation 22:59 Role of Ego in Leadership and Co-creation 26:11 Creativity in Business and Leadership
Meet Chris & IanChris Deaver and Ian Clawson are the co-authors of Brave Together – Lead by Design, Spark Creativity, and Shape the Future with the Power of Co-Creation. They are the co-founders of BraveCore, and co-hosts of the Lead with a Question podcast.
Chris' Story: Chris has coached C Level Executives & influenced Fortune 500s from the inside out. He has had the dream career at Apple and Disney, working with inspiring teams that shaped iProducts and Star Wars experiences. He’s a regular contributor to Fast Company, featured in The Wall Street Journal & Entrepreneur. He’s developed landmark studies of the most innovative teams, partnering with Stanford and Harvard professors. Chris continues to advise startups and coach leaders contributing to 10x growth. He earned his MBA and is also continues to be a guest lecturer at the Marriott School at BYU.
Ian's Story: Ian Clawson helps leaders build cultures people love. He is a regular contributor to Fast Company who's had work featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, INC, USA Today, Influencive, & Disrupt Magazine. Over the past decade Ian has led culture transformation initiatives in the healthcare industry. Overseeing a multi-million-dollar skilled nursing facility operation in Silicon Valley, CA. He is also co-founder of StoryCircle, a development studio focused on co-creation, world building & original storytelling acting as a lead writer and story architect. Ian earned a degree at BYU-Hawaii in International Cultural Studies where he developed a high interest in World Philosophy and Communication Theory.
Book Recommendations- Brave Together: Lead by Design, Spark Creativity, and Shape the Future with the Power of Co-Creation by Chris Deaver and Ian Clawson
- Range by David Epstein
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