The Purpose Is Not to Damage the Institution

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I'm a huge believer that we need these things in our society. And so, like the purposes never to damage the institution. Where you can make change and effect change is when you're at an organization. But i think we're in the middle of this really big experiment. You're seeing it play out all the time, every day. Everyone's litigating everything. Do you find that energizing? No, i find it exhausting sometimes. I'd like to live in the gray, but gee, if there's certainty, it's nice, right? There's no certainty any more.

Lulu Garcia-Navarro is a former war correspondent and host of NPR’s Weekend Edition. Her new podcast, for the New York Times, is First Person.

“I would always say that if you go cover a story and you already know what people are going to say, and you already have it in your head what the outcome is, and there's no surprise there, then that's a story that you shouldn't be working on. You have to allow the opportunity for there to be a journey. And for there to be something at the end of it, that is gonna be like, Wow. I really never thought that. I didn't think that I was coming here to report on that, but I guess that's what I'm here to report on.”

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