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The 2022 Holberg Debate on Ukraine, Russia, China and the West.

Holberg Prize Talks

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Is There a Prospect for a Meaningful Agreement on Arms Control?

I think the key getting back to my earlier point about the Eliza Georgia argument, it all depends on the intensity of the competition. The problem is that we have in East Asia today an intense security competition already between the United States and the Chinese. So we are honoring a meaningful sort of agreement on an issue like arms control or proliferation or climate. I think this is going to be very tough with that competition. Yeah. Gets complicated. But then I will... And the reason for that is self-interest because the decision magazine Washington in Moscow and in Beijing knows that an all-out nuclear war is the end of it.

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