The Social License: How to Reframe the Writ

AEMO is it's a huge task of forecasting and, you know, I don't think anyone's ever going to get that perfect. We're talking here about a scenario that looks out to when the coal power stations are going to be closing. What we need is actually bolder and more ambitious scenarios which not necessarily are based on purely hydrogen or other kind of technologies. But really showing us that if we wanted to reach a 1.5 degree future, and what does that actually look like for us in terms of? And that's not be afraid.