How Do You Frame a Book?

"We didn't want to eliminate but we did want to play with which also I think relates to the meta aspect of the project altogether because it's calling your attention to these formal aspects of the book" "The whole point of this was to kind of take a step back and not just talk about the podcast but also to talk about the book too," he says. 'When you start sort of line when things go we go your way you tend to you know that things that the dominoes begin to fall nicely'