Stephen Jay Shaw is a data scientist, demographer and the creator of a film called Birth Gap. Seven years ago, he saw some data that basically pointed to the world's population collapsing. He decided I need to write a book about it; then came across someone who was in that world. And seven years later, yeah, the birth gap cell is world documentary. Yeah, it is out. You should have made a TikTok documentary if you really want to reach the young people just 20 seconds. But birth gap, as I say, it's super important. Explain to everybody.

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