What Can Meditation and Psychodelics Teach Us About the Nature of the Self?

John Harris: I want to talk about human well being and experiences of the positive. And this is, if anything, an interest in this has been heightened our current circumstance because so many people have been forced into something that impressively resembles a kind of retreat. So there'ss a lot to motivate a conversation about things like meditation and psychodelics and what they can reveal about the nature of the self. John yet, perhaps to start, give me a sense of your background here. You spent some time in india at some point in either in graduate school or as a post dock but remind me how you came to be interested in these topics....