The Pre-Bucha Phase of the War in Ukraine

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Most military experts were expecting tanks to roll down the streets of Kiev imminently. The Russians seemed to be offensive again, but again they didn't get as far as they might. What's obvious is that it's easier to be on the defensive than it is to be onThe offensive. But effectively we can expect this grinding process to go on for the next little bit or if there isn't some form of armistice and a negotiation settlement.

Tim Mak is a writer, reporter, and founder of the online publication The Counteroffensive. He was formerly the Washington Investigative Correspondent for National Public Radio.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tim Mak discuss the slow progress of Ukraine’s counteroffensive and how a big breakthrough might come about; how the collective experience of resisting Russian aggression has contributed to a shared sense of Ukrainian national identity; and what the future may hold for a post-war Ukraine.

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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