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214: First Farm in New York

Reconcilable Differences

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The Pain of Organization

"I feel like it's so funny for certain, you know me. ... I always end up coming back to these same sort of analogies," he said. "Like whenever I talk about stuff like, you know, organization and purging, and I always endup talking about like the kitchen because the kitchen is such a nexus for what can go wrong with being organized." He added: "It's very, there's a lot to do with the mise en place and all of that".

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