The Proof Podcast: Part 2: Skincare, Hair Care and Deodorant

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Simon Hill sits down with Michelle Wong, PhD for part two of our conversation. This time the focus is on skincare, hair care and deodorant. Do we need to be worried about common ingredients such as parabens or EDTAs? Is clean or natural skincare better than traditional skincare? And perhaps paradoxical to the theme of this episode, do we place too much value in beauty and our appearance? Are we being sucked into a giant marketing campaign that leaves us feeling inadequate?

Episode #235. Cosmetic chemist Michelle Wong shares a different approach to skincare – one you're probably not used to seeing on your Instagram feed. In an age of extensive skincare routines and misleading marketing, how do we navigate our skin’s natural state and optimise its appearance and wellness?

We cover this question and many more in this week’s episode.

Specifically, we discuss:

Intro (0:00)
Defining ‘Clean Beauty’ (2:17)
‘Natural’ vs synthetic (7:14)
EWG’s Skin Deep Database (8:26)
What to Avoid (10:17)
Is the Risk worth the Reward? (15:32)
PFAs (20:25)
“Free From” Claims (22:59)
Risk During Pregnancy (30:08)
Effective Ingredients (32:56)
Addressing the Root Cause of skin issues (35:05)
Skin’s ability to Heal (36:11)
Danger in Combining Ingredients (38:06)
Aging & Collagen (40:21)
Combining Multiple Products (52:02)
Does Price Indicate Effectiveness? (54:16)
Participants in Studies (59:31)
Preventative Aging (collagen vs retinol) (1:01:57)
Hyaluronic Acid (1:07:49)
Exfoliation (1:09:57)
Skin Microbiome (1:15:14)
Pigmentation (1:17:24)
Overrated Ingredients (1:19:27)
Natural Plant Compounds (1:21:27)
Acne (1:24:36)
Hair Care (1:32:47)
Shampoo/ Conditioner (1:37:34)
Hair Loss (1:40:41)
What to Avoid (1:42:01)
Deodorants (1:44:49)
Society’s Beauty Standards (1:51:12)
Outro (1:55:29)

To connect with Michelle Wong, PhD, you can find her via the Lab Muffin Beauty Science social accounts on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and YouTube. For a comprehensive guide on skincare basics, Dr Wong has an eBook available for purchase here. Listen to Dr Wong’s previous appearance on The Proof, focusing on sunscreen, at Episode #234.

Discover additional resources, supporting studies, and more insights in the full show notes.

Enjoy, friends.

Simon

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