I think we need to reckon with ourselves and maybe by reckoning with that we might look back and perhaps pull out the sort of unfortunate fuel rods of binary politics to get at the idea of reparations or reconciliation or recompense. There was a real role of American business in the Holocaust and collaboration with the Nazis business collaboration can you talk a little bit about that because one of the things I've noticed is tech companies like Google Amazon worked with the Trump administration on immigration crackdowns there's a lot of red-pilled engineers in Silicon Valley these days that that you can't talk about racial and gender diversity they've moved very significantly to the right in Silicon Valley he says.