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Introduction
This is a podcast explainin ukrane by ucrane world dot org. Our guests are famous german politicians, co founders of the centre fo liberal modernity in berlin. Marie louisa berg and a fuk were making this conversation in kief during their second visit to the ukranian capital since the russian full scale invasion of ukraine. Why is germany reluctant to engage more with ukraine, to supply arms that ukranians are asking for, and to acknowledge that its usual policy of finding compromise with russia has failed?