332: ‘The Post-Doom Era’, With Joanna Stern
The Talk Show With John Gruber
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Introduction
"It's actually so much easier to let to be on something like this, verses like hosting something rig cause you don't have to be funny thi or a host is the funny one," he says. "I just kind of try to be myself, right make no matter what pens, he can make it funny."
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