Speaker 2
It's a scary o, yes,
Speaker 1
maybe we cand end, maybe when on this question. Wec ut a practical note. So i've never been a part of it, but, a, the c s, there's this thing called the y p o aansere yong, young president's organization that a lot of s es i know have been a part of. Andit basically, i think it's a good model, which a basically set up essentially a trust bubble. A, basically it's a sortof very carefully calebrated organization. We become part of a group of peers. A, and n they basically signed up till thiy really trust each other, right? Cause they got on like ashly, talki about like the real ship, ah, and it can't leak. Am. And so i know lot of sat yos men through that who like that a lot. And then, you know, the obvious, you know, kind of, you know, kind of homespun version of that is, you know, uno kind of a group of founders basically creating the sang the same thing, or working wit, you kno, the, youknow, ther venture firm, pherantral gestures, o, whatever, to figure out a group like that.
Speaker 2
Yes. Now, i look, i i've heard great things too. I've never been in onch my wi. I cand of wish i had been in one a but i think that's a lot of it, like just knowing that there are other people who have it were something like one of my favourites. Em conversations i'd have with so ive ont so, you whose business has got absolutely wrecked by the pandemic, you know, but he's still, he's still doing like, an amazing job with it. But, you know, he said to me, ben, i'm the first post revenue company. E pre revenue comn te, first post revenue company. And
Speaker 1
i said, no, i was the first post revenue company. And
Speaker 2
so it's, you now, just like that feeling that he's like, ogaim talking to somebody who like, screwed it up worse than i did. Em is is is ani feeling. So have having a group with people who will tell you the truth, i think it would be a huge help.