Alex: The biggest thing that is underestimated and under under appreciated is making an amazing offer right so I had a mentor early on and most people don't know who he is but so TJ Travis Jones was in the Jim Guru space way back when. Alex: At this point I had no Jim I had no clients I had no nothing and I bought a three thousand dollar seminar on marketing you know as part of my training to get better at what I'm doing now. You guys love that you're listening to the podcast if you ever want to have the video version of this which usually has more effects more visuals more graphs you know drawing out stuff sometimes it can help hit the brain centers in different ways

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