The Importance of Public Ownership in Bidenomics

Sally Kohn: I want to talk about where public ownership fits into this all, both in terms of bidenomics and then where does it fit in your slash our vision. Why is public ownership important concretely for achieving decarbonization and adjust energy transition? And are there ways that all these carrots and sticks or carrots can be deployed in such a way that puts us on a path towards socializing a growing share of this capital away? She says the obvious part of the IRA that maybe can contribute to public ownership is the direct pay provisions.