Both zen and stoicism acknowledge the presence of pain and suffering. Stress is no different, but what we want to prevent is undue stress that comes from the focus or the investment of our energy into something that is not important to us. So this comes down to effect decision making, being able to have a sense of foresight. When we have stress around something that is important to us, we don't necessarily suffer through it. It is more like a pain of discipline. And there's soething satisfactory about it. But when we are stressing about something that has nothing to do with what is actually important or meaningful to us, that's when we find it to be a stress that

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