Introduction

This is yet another intro podcast. Nobody asked for another episode. Eric: I've seen a bit of an emergence of a second layer of bad vendors. It's either like snowflake or also things like Vercelle or Netlify. If it disincentivizes you to make improvements in one layer because it removes the revenue and another layer. So I pointed out as a disadvantage for Cloud vendors to compete effectively on other features at the top layer when it reduces revenue in the bottom layer.