I find it extremely valuable for me to see how the next generation of teams are making their products now. I observe all this, you know, in little pockets of time during the week or oftentimes the week end. And then in my day job as a big company, ou now we're tackling how many of the same issues? So i ask that all the time. It's kept me on my toes. It's taught me more than i can explain and it's extraordinarily rewarding at this point.

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