The real danger is some foreign government or some random-ass ecological terrorist here at home designs a drive to go after for example the honey bee. Kevin Estefold who I talked to about the gene drives is working on he's like listen the real problem that we're facing is it's very easy to create new organisms specifically new viruses let's say. The thing that he's really worried about is the new HIV he says because you know this is something that our entire society could perhaps already be infected by and we don't know it.

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