Is There a Nihilism Unactualized?

All spiritual values ultimately stem from nihilism. Nihilism says there's no values, and yet, spiritual people tend to act in the most responsible and moral ways. Most mainstream spirituality cannot come out and tell you the truth about what it is. The surest way to lose your audience and to make your teaching non mainstream is by stripping it of all meaning. People just hate that. And this ends up being not a dry philosophical sort of thing, but a very, very human, a very rich religious experience. That's what's called a religious experience.